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 Post subject: Re: Ultramarines
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:48 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Ultramarines
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:47 pm 

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Oh come on, it's the first real movie they made about Warhammer 40k. I mean I know it's not shooting for the Oscar but damn it was fun to SEE something in the form of a movie. True the story isn't that consistent, the characters aren't that deep and the graphics, well, most of them look like they wear asses on their heads, then again, that might have been intended. But goddamn the scene with the captain entering the battlefield and kicking ass woke the primal nerd in me.

I'm sure they'll make a proper one in the future, you know, large scale battles, war machines, big explosions and all that shiz. Let's just hope it's in our lifetime, if not, we can die saying we saw at least one warhammer 40k movie.


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 Post subject: Re: Ultramarines
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:46 pm 
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It was ok. The animation was second tier, the voice work left much to be desired, and there was zero sense of weight in the film. These are 500kg-ish warriors wielding a weapon that is mounted on vehicles for lesser men. I didn't get that at all.

It was a decent story, it reminded me of the Horus Heresy books on disc. Good story, enough to get you interested but left you wanting something more for the money you paid for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Ultramarines
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 3:38 pm 
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COuld someone upload it to youtube, or give me a link to where I ca nsee it on youtube?

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 Post subject: Re: Ultramarines
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:45 am 

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The movie was amazing shit. I can't believe how bad it was. The visuals I don't care about as it's a small studio, so I don't care to criticize that part of it, but a movie made for 40k fans specifically really ought to get the 40k stuff right, shouldn't it?

So why were Ultramarine tactical marines "untested in battle"? This is the chapter that follows the codex to the letter, and the codex says marines start as scouts, then become assault marines, then devastator, and then tactical marines. Every member of that squad would have had to have been veterans of many, many battles already if they made it to tactical marines.

Or how about the McGuffin itself and the situation surrounding it. An ENTIRE COMPANY of Imperial Fists marines is relegated to some backwater planet to guard a book? That's completely absurd right on its face, but anyone who knows anything about Imperial Fists knows that they're the defensive experts. Rogal Dorn was the guy who fortified the Imperial Palace during the Heresy, and his chapter is renowned as the Imperium's most stalwart defenders and masters of fortification-building. So you have an entire company of marines famous for being good at building/manning defensive positions, and they're tasked with defending a planet that is a long way away from help. And yet they didn't even have so much as a sandbag bunker built. They literally died in the middle of a wide open field. It's retarded. Who tries to mount a defense in the middle of a wide open field?

And that really plays into my next point. The marines weren't anything special. The intro rambled on about how, ooh, they're superhumans and steel and doom and all this nonsense, and yet they waltzed around a combat zone like idiots and died like idiots would. Any army anywhere in the world could probably field a hundred soldiers more capable than the incompetent members of Omega Squad featured in this movie. It was pathetic.

Not only that, but their personalities (what little there was) was completely inconsistent with what you'd expect. I mean, really? Ultramarines make fun of and insult their centuries-old apothecary for laughs? They imply he's a coward to his face and joke about it? The script was written by a ten-year-old and the marines act like children.

Anyway, awful movie and not worth paying to see. I could go on and on about how bad the movie was from the standpoint of a 40k fan and from someone who has watched a movie before in his life.

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COuld someone upload it to youtube, or give me a link to where I ca nsee it on youtube?


You can't see it on YouTube, it's an actual movie that people spent money to make, so you need to rent it or buy it. I do not recommend it, however.


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 Post subject: Re: Ultramarines
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:11 am 

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I enjoyed the movie as an action movie fan, as a GW fan, and Space Marine fan i did not.

It was brutal and fantastic, it had big loud guns. It was good.

The marines were retards, and should have been killed by whatever lowbie during the culling before even being considered for marine indoctrination.
Marines are chosen from the toughest, and most effective people that survive the culling process.
These guys should have been veterans before they became scouts. But this omega company was laughable. As the previous post explained there were many huge holes with the story from the get. No way would a company of Imperial Fists have been caught in the open. No way we would have seen so many dead space marines lying around and little or no remains of their attackers!!!! These are space marines for gawds sake.
And what genius decided that if an entire company gots its poop shoot reamed, a single squad would be any help? If 100 marines fell, 10 more would be no help at all.

That said, that wasnt the part that bugged me most. The Chaplain was window dressing in that movie. The Chaplain should have been screaming and whipping the rest of the marines into a frothing at the mouth fury, with litanies of hate, and inspirational speechs about how awesome it is to be a space marine. Instead he followed around behind the rest ( wrong, Chaplains lead!!!) and said next to nothing, and when it came time to throw down, he pulled some funky new ability out of his butt and smoked a paltry 5 chaos marines. Chaplains cant do that!!! Thats something a Librarian would have done.

I loved the movie, truly I did. Ive seen it 15 times. But some parts of it were just retarded. They should have got a good Black library writer to do the script, and kept the producers from messing with the story. Because they did have a good writer involved, Dan Abbnet. One of my faves, but clearly he didnt have enough control of the script, since he wouldnt have made them so stupid or made up powers for marines that dont have any powers. Awesome movie, not as good as a book, or very representative of the 40K universe, but still good.

Anyways as another previous posted said they were Smurfs not Space Wolves.

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 Post subject: Re: Ultramarines
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:26 am 

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Arbhall Tarsis wrote:
The marines were retards, and should have been killed by whatever lowbie during the culling before even being considered for marine indoctrination.


This is what was most egregious to me. Ultramarine recruits are drawn from martial academies in the Ultramar system which train kids from a very young age to be superb warrior candidates for induction into the Ultramarines. I imagine it'd be something like what classical Sparta put its male children through, but on crack. From there, only the very best are actually selected to become neophytes in the Ultramarines. Then they have to survive training and augmentation, survive as a scout, survive as an assault marine, survive as a devastator marine, and then, finally, decades later, they're allowed to serve as a tactical marine.

The marine characters in the movie should have been incredible. The Chaos and Ultramarine marines should have provided inhuman displays of tactical and combat prowess which should have left the audience going "wow, that was pretty amazing". Just look at the Space Marine game coming out soon, the one Relic is doing. The marines kick ass in it. And yet in this movie, they were awful. They were worse than awful. How many action movies have we all seen where the regular human soldiers were more convincingly professional and talented? Even the Colonial Marines from the movie Aliens were more impressive.

It really was a pathetic display.


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 Post subject: Re: Ultramarines
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:40 pm 

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Bucky Gunts wrote:
Arbhall Tarsis wrote:
The marines were retards, and should have been killed by whatever lowbie during the culling before even being considered for marine indoctrination.


This is what was most egregious to me. Ultramarine recruits are drawn from martial academies in the Ultramar system which train kids from a very young age to be superb warrior candidates for induction into the Ultramarines. I imagine it'd be something like what classical Sparta put its male children through, but on crack. From there, only the very best are actually selected to become neophytes in the Ultramarines. Then they have to survive training and augmentation, survive as a scout, survive as an assault marine, survive as a devastator marine, and then, finally, decades later, they're allowed to serve as a tactical marine.

The marine characters in the movie should have been incredible. The Chaos and Ultramarine marines should have provided inhuman displays of tactical and combat prowess which should have left the audience going "wow, that was pretty amazing". Just look at the Space Marine game coming out soon, the one Relic is doing. The marines kick ass in it. And yet in this movie, they were awful. They were worse than awful. How many action movies have we all seen where the regular human soldiers were more convincingly professional and talented? Even the Colonial Marines from the movie Aliens were more impressive.

It really was a pathetic display.



I couldnt agree more!!

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 Post subject: Re: Ultramarines
PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:40 pm 
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The characters in Space Marine were better... lol... and if you're going to make an Ultramarines movie it should be about Captain Uriel Ventris... hrm?

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 Post subject: Re: Ultramarines
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:10 am 
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As a an action film fan and GW fan I enjoyed it. The Smurfs are a bit fick in the film but since I cant stomach them at the best of times that suited me fine. It was aimed at being a tester for the potential for future better flicks so taken as what it was I dont see all the glaring canological errors, of which there are many, as being a big deal.

I reckon getting a sucessfull (considering the target audience and sales only) pilot flick out was the best thing as it could mean more in the future. Everything else is largely just nit picking. And lets be honest here, ok, honest, I loved spotting all the errors it was one of the best parts about the film. When it was reveled what the Fists were guarding and that they had just had a bit of a butt pounding I almost pished myself with glee. Time to trot off to Abnetts blog and roundly abuse him for mincing lore and not insisting on doing a Guants Ghosts short story for a flick instead thinks I! Yeah yeah I know it wasnt his decision. :D Anyway its not bad, if I was given the choice of a Michael Bay film or Ultrasmurfs the Movie i'd pick the Smurfs anyday.

Having said that let me sum it up:

Bunch of Noob Smurfs get landed on a planet in response to a distress call

They land. They walk a bit. They walk a bit more. They sort of semi runa and jump a bit, then walk a little. Then they walk some more just to be sure. They see dead bodies and walk. Oddly its about here the story picks up and they do some serious walking. They meet some Fists and have a bit of banter about books and chaos and stuv. Some walking. Some action stuff. Walking. More action, more action. Bit of walking. More action. Walking. Action end. Possibly some walking...

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